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Nancy Lee Grahn

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In this age of social media and instant access and Donald Trump and caged children and a nation melting, I am thankful for Maggie Haberman. I am thankful for Jonathan Martin. I am thankful for Chuck Todd and Katy Tur and Chris Wallace.

I am thankful for Nancy Lee Grahn.

Now, to be honest, I’ve never watched an episode of General Hospital, the show on which Nancy has starred for decades. I’ve never seen Santa Barbara, another soap on which she appeared. I didn’t see when she guest-hosted The View and I only vaguely recall her briefer-than-brief stint on Little House on the Prairie (one of my childhood staples).

But here’s the thing: Nancy Lee Grahn kicks ass. She has a platform, she has a voice and she uses both of them to speak her mind. She’s loud and opinionated and smart and as socially conscious as any celebrity you’ll ever see. Her Twitter feed is often on fire. In a good way. Not literally.

I digress.

Nancy’s Emmy-packed acting career is riveting, and this week’s 365th Quaz opens up on what it is to be a soap opera star; on her steamy relationship with Michael Landon; on Bill Bixby and fame and the pressing question she would ask Mr. T.

Nancy Lee Grahn—you are the newest Quaz …

JEFF PEARLMAN: So Nancy, you’ve acted in a ton of different places within a wide variety of genres, but you’re best known for your work on “General Hospital” and “Santa Barbara.” And I wanted to ask, as a non-soap opera guy, why you think the soaps have lasted this long, and drawn so many fans/viewers? Is it the message? The medium? The time slot? The … what?

NANCY LEE GRAHN: Technically, we’re supposed to get our scripts 72 hours in advance. That used to matter to m e… now I can quickly assess the import of my material for the day and measure the time I need the material to ruminate in my brain. After all those years in acting school, along with acting every day for 31 years I’m fairly adept at doing this. So depending on the material, I can either learn lines on way up to shoot, or look them over a night or two before. And sometimes, even after I see scripts ahead of time, I have no idea what Alexis is doing or why. That used to upset me. Now I just say it fast and hope no one notices.

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J.P.: Is fame great or awful? I mean, you’ve had this long, wonderful career. I’m sure you’ve been well compensated, etc. But—does being in the public eye become exhausting? Do you sorta cringe when people approach in, say, a restaurant? Are there times you wish you could be invisible?

N.L.G.: Never. I can honestly say I’venever had a moment of not enjoying my relationship with my audience. What could be so bad about having people come up to you and telling you how much they like you? My fame is very manageable and quite lovely. I don’t think I’d have the same feeling if I were Jennifer Anniston or Madonna, who can go nowhere unnoticed. For me it’s just a nice thing.

J.P.: I know you’re from Evanston, Illinois, I know your idol was Katharine Hepburn, I know you got your start in a community production of “Oklahoma.” But when did the acting bug first bite you? When did you first realize, “Holy shit! I want to do this”?

N.L.G.: I auditioned for “Bye Bye Birdie” my junior year in high school having not been in the theatre. I got the lead. I remember each night singing on stage and feeling 100 percent tapped in, tuned in, and turned on. I had this sense of confidence, centeredness and certainty. Still not believing acting was a practical choice for a career, I played the lead in my senior year musical. Someone saw me, and told me to audition for the Broadway Equity production of “Guys and Dolls” that was coming to the Goodman Theatre, a very reputable repertoire theatre in Chicago. They were looking for a couple roles to fill in Chicago. I auditioned and got the role. And so it goes.

J.P.: There’s a quote on your IMDB page—“I’m not a radical feminist, I’m an optimistic one.” And, truth be told, these days I’m having a ton of trouble feeling optimistic, what with Donald Trump’s pure awfulness, the rise of North Korea, climate change, etc. So … are you still optimostic? And, if so, how? And why?

N.L.G.: As you can tell from my Twitter, I’m filled with rage, shock, horror, and utter bafflement. I vent daily, RT info, call senators and scream at them, write checks to the blue team, and laugh when I can. But underneath it all, yes, I am optimistic. We unfortunately needed this contrast. We grew complacent and fine about sitting back and letting other’s handle things while whining about how unlikable really qualified women were. We forgot that democracy and equal rights aren’t to be taken for granted. They are privileges that need to be continually fought for. Everyone needed to wake up. And the inexplicable contrast that Trump and his baf-goons have presented us with, has awakened and activated us. It is a giant freakin soap opera that has us engaged, and mercifully schooled in civics like never before. I see the fire in the bellies of many of us, but mostly in these kids. They’re gonna shift the plates under our earth, stabilize us, and set us on a better course. Yes, I’m optimistic … when I’m not in a fetal position crying for my mommy.

J.P.: Hold on, Nancy! I was just reading your IMDB page and, in 1980, you played “Saloon Girl” in an episode of Little House. Ok, make my happy. How did you land the part? What do you remember?

N.L.G.: I slept with Michael Landon!

Just kidding.

I auditioned for those coveted twO lines. I remember, Michael Landon who was a dream, meant nothing by it, but when giving me a direction, called me “sweetie.” I asked him if he could call me by my name. I’m such an asshole.

J.P.: Greatest moment of your career? Lowest?

N.L.G.: I like winning awards. So Emmys are nice moments … but I truly love what I do, so the great moments are many and the low ones are forgettable.

With daughter Kate

With daughter Kate

J.P.: Serious question—should we be giving soap operas more respect? What I mean is, I feel like there’s a certain eye roll with soaps. Like, “Yeah, she used to be in a soap, but now …” Do you feel like we idiots misunderstand the genius of the medium?

N.L.G.: This is such a good question and one I’ve never been asked after all these years. The lack of respect for soap operas is due to a lack of understanding for what we do. Let me start by saying that I have more of a sense humor about soap operas than anyone. There are days when I’m asked to do and say things that would never happen on planet earth. In order to act you have to be able to answer the question why

Why is my brother not dead, after I saw them extract his liver that was used to save my daughter? Why does my neighbor have a bomb strapped to him that goes off at his house, knock everyone in my house unconscious, while he walks out of his kitchen with a scrape on his forehead? On those days you either throw a fit about how no one can act this shit, you laugh your way through it, or you have an out-of-body experience while you’re acting it. I’ve done all  three … sometimes at once.

But here’s the thing, we shoot seven, sometimes eight shows a week. Each script is approximately 150 pages. Writers, producers, directors, crew, have to navigate all of that, along with sets, lights, actor availability, and a myriad other things. The actors have to efficiently figure out how to make it all believable with only one rehearsal. It is not for sissies. And it is not a damned training ground. Never, ever, say that to an actor on Daytime television. It’s not an actor training ground, It’s a fucking acting warzone, and you’d better know what you’re doing or you’ll be chewed up and spit out. When young actors come in, they often stick out like a sore thumb until they catch on and most don’t. Even if you’re a pro … the last person who is very well known on prime time came on for five days and when it was over said, “I feel like I’ve been dragged through a swamp naked.”

Most of us who’ve been doing this for a while have figured out a method to be as good as we can with every limitation. We don’t have the luxury of budget, time and a team of 50 writers who have six months to weigh their every word and weave intricate, detailed stories. We are TV rep company. We do a different play every day on a dime and a prayer … and make a whole lotta people happy in the process. So, yeah, respect would be nice, but not necessary. We know who we are, and what we do. The truth is, I’ve gotten to say some incredibly beautiful words and do some great acting, over the years that I’m very proud of. I’ve watched others do the same. I’ve also been able to act regularly for 31 years, and I still love it. I love going to work. And on the days that are silly and I can’t answer the question why? … as my acting teacher, Sandy Meisner said to me … “You can always listen and respond.” True that.

J.P.: You’ve won multiple Emmy Awards, and while that’s awesome, I wonder whether, in acting, there’s such a thing as “best.” Maybe that sounda naïve or corny, but it seems that acting—like writing—is subjective. No? And, along those lines, what did it feel like to win the first Emmy?

N.L.G.: Winning an Emmy is lovely. It’s nice to imagine stuff and have it happen, but mostly it’s a great opportunity to go on a rampage of appreciation for your family and friends.

At the Emmy Awards with Greg Vaughan

At the Emmy Awards with Greg Vaughan

J.P.: You’re an actress in her early 60s who has managed to work and work and work. Which is amazing, but it also seems unlikely, given the way your profession seems to treat many women as they age. So how do you feel you’ve been able to survive and thrive? And do you feel like my take on the profession and women is right? Or overly simplistic?

S.L.G.: As a woman on General Hospital, I’m still relevant. I’m 60, having better sex on the show than … well, anyone … thriving … front burner and interesting. Soaps are better than any medium on television for honoring and respecting woman. I cannot stress enough the gender equality and lack of age discrimination that I’ve experienced on daytime television. I cannot say the same for primetime. The roles available to me as a woman on primetime are down to a five-line guest star with no substance or relevance. There is typically one white woman lead, an ethnic supporting woman ( thank God for that) and a thousand men. It is not OK. As archaic as people think soaps are, they value women more than most others.

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• I feel like your last name is begging for an M to replace the N. How often have you faced that misspelling in your life?: Oy! GRAHN. It’s AAAH not AT like in bat. Why don’t people get that?

• Three reasons one should make Skokie his/her next vacation destination: I’m not gonna lie. It’s a great place to grow up… not vacation.

• I’m wondering what—if anything—you remember about the whole Nazi/Skokie controversy from your youth?: I was there then. I was home visiting. As a daughter of a Jewish mom, which makes me Jewish, and growing up with many friends whose parents had numbers branded on their arms … it was jaw-droppingly horrifying and confusing. There was a part of me that said ignore these assholes. They are few and irrelevant. But the other part of me knew that, that is how the holocaust happened. No one should ever ignore this evil. Stomp it out.

• Rank in order (favorite to least): Chicago Tribune, doing laundry, Tyrod Taylor, distance running, “All the President’s Men,” Kim Zimmer, the Electric Slide, Elton John, Winnie Cooper: Chicago Tribune (only because @rexhuppke writes for it and makes me laugh and think every day). Elton John (because Charlie, my daughter’s bestie in the pop program at USC, is the son of his guitarist). Kim Zimmer because she is my fellow soap diva, “All the President’s Men” because it is the truth and I hate the electric slide and don’t know who Winnie Cooper is and I’m sure she doesn’t know me either.

• Three memories from your appearance on The Incredible Hulk: I run like a really uncoordinated girl. I loved Bill Bixby. I learned to drive a stick shift on set and made Bill and my dog so nervous, they both pee’d in the seat.

• The world needs to know—what did David Hasselhoff’s hair smell like?: I did not smell David’s hair, although he was much funnier than I expected.

• We’ve both been blocked on Twitter by Scott Baio. What does that say about us?: Being blocked by Scott Baio shows good breeding.

• Tell us a joke, please: I am the worst joke teller ever. I laugh before the punch line.

• Without Googling, name every Donna Summer song you know: “Last Dance.”

• One question you would ask Mr. T were he here right now: Why?

I’ve now seen everything

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So as I write this I’m sitting in a tiny Nashville coffee shop called Headquarters.

It’s cozy and quaint and the music is pretty solid. The coffee tastes like coffee, the pastries appear to be pastries. There are outlets aplenty. I have no complaints.

Well, scratch that. I have one complaint.

Ordered my drink. Went to the bathroom. Greeted by this …

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I’ve probably written in 500 diners and cafes through the years. I’ve seen gnats, roaches, piss stains, poop stains, snarky waitresses, disturbing chefs, rude customers. Never before, though, have I been to a place that pitches beverages that make people shit while simultaneously disallowing shits to be taken.

I’ll enjoy my 50 minutes here.

My dad read my USFL book

Yes, Stan Pearlman is wearing an Oklahoma Outlaws shirt.

Yes, Stan Pearlman is wearing an Oklahoma Outlaws shirt.

My dad’s name is Stanley Pearlman.

He grew up in Brooklyn, and played no sports. He wasn’t a Brooklyn Dodgers fan. He didn’t like the New York Giants. He has no stories of going to Madison Square Garden to watch Willis Reed. Once, when I was a kid, he won a T-shirt in our local synagogue’s bowling tournament. It was the giveaway for placing last.

I bring all this up not to mock my dear father, but to praise him.

Somehow, despite being the offspring of Stan and Joan Pearlman, I grew up loving sports. Nearly all sports. Boxing. Football. Baseball. Basketball. Track and field. I was the kid who dug into Sport and Sports Illustrated; who knew Dave Winfield’s stats by heart; who sat before the television, mitt on hand, mimicking the throws of Rafael Santana and Wally Backman.

My dad, meanwhile, would observe sports only if I promised to scratch his back.

But here’s the thing. The amazing thing. Over the past month my dad has been texting me updates from “Football for a Buck,” my upcoming USFL book—which he read cover to cover. Stuff like this …

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And, truly, I can’t tell you how amazing this is. “Football for a Buck” is my eighth book, and Dad has read them all. And, again, he doesn’t … give … two … shits … about … sports. Doesn’t care. Wouldn’t be excited for Reggie Jackson to appear at his local picnic, because he wouldn’t recognize Reggie Jackson. Doesn’t know Sam Darnold and Carmelo Anthony walk the earth. Phil Jackson? Larry Brown? Jeremy Lin? Wesley Walker? The Ball Family? No and no and no and no and no.

But he’s always been my biggest supporter and booster. Quick with kind words. Quick with sage advice. Critical when it’s needed, but without being harsh or destructive. This dates back to my childhood, when I’d read my parents high school newspaper articles, and they’d (at least pretend to) listen. Support has never been hard to come by in this family. Never ever.

So, truly, happy Father’s Day to my best reader and my role model.

Is it so wrong that I urinated into a Dunkin’ Donuts cup?

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Back in the day, when no one read this blog and I was a young nobody (as opposed to an old nobody), I used to write about absolutely everything. Blood in my feces. Spit v. farts. My failed prom dates. On and on and on.

Then, gradually, I grew up and stopped.

Well, I’m in Nashville for the APSE convention, and it’s raining, and I was taking a long walk and needed to rest in a McDonald’s to avoid getting wet. So I’ve decided to go old school and admit something quite scandalous …

Yesterday I, Jeff Pearlman, urinated into a Dunkin’ Donuts cup.

I was driving from my sister-in-law’s house to Kennedy Airport, and I made the mistake of ordering a large iced coffee, then sucking it down in about three minutes. Enter—the traffic. The crushing traffic. The really, really, really crushing traffic. And I sat there, not moving, nowhere to go, increasingly worried about making my flight. I looked to my right, where a mostly empty large Dunkin’ sat. And I thought, well …

What’s a brother to do?

Peeing in a cup isn’t as hard as one might think. And, yes, you’re reading that correctly—I’ve done it once or twice before in my life. A few keys:

• You have to remove your seatbelt.

• It can’t be a small cup.

Um … yeah.

So I peed. Into a cup. A Dunkin’ Donuts cup. Later on, when I stopped for gas, I secretively chucked it into a garbage can. It sorta looked like lemonade.

I don’t think Dunkin’ sells lemonade.

Black beach fest

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Found this photo the other day at my parents’ house. Made me crack up.

Back in the summer of either 1990 or 1991, I traveled with two friends from my hometown of Mahopac, N.Y. to Jones Beach for a day of relaxation in the sun.

We had no real expectations. Sand. Girls. Water. Ice cream. Really, nothing out of the ordinary.

As we pulled closer, however, something unique became increasingly clear. There were people. Lots of people. Lots and lots of people. And they were all black. Now, I certainly had no problem with this, but it was an unusual sight considering our hometown was as diverse as the contents of a milk factory.

Anyhow, I’m white, and my friend Craig was white. But the other member of our party, Jonathan, is African-American. And as soon as we realized we were unintentional attendees at Jones Beach’s annual Summer Black Beach Fest event, he smiled from ear to ear.

“Now you guys know how it feels!” he laughed. “Now you know!”

It was one of my all-time favorite moments.

And a wonderful lesson.

A reminder to Republicans

From the Sept. 23, 1983 New York Daily News.

From the Sept. 23, 1983 New York Daily News.

I pause from day-to-day life to provide Republican backers of Donald J. Trump with an important reminder. No charge.

Following the inaugural season of the United States Football League, Trump—then a regionally known New York businessman—purchased the New Jersey Generals from someone named J. Walter Duncan. In the leadup, he praised the league. Said it was amazing, fantastic, thrilled, charmed, wonderful. He was excited to join such a growing entity, and couldn’t wait what might happen next. Here, this is from the New York Daily News at the time …

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Then, shortly after he was approved by the league, he insisted the USFL needed to switch from spring to fall and directly challenge the NFL. He promised greatness. He swore he had networks itching for a fall television deal. He guaranteed success; assured everyone it was the only route.

Ultimately, he won. Trump swayed the other owners into going fall and suing the NFL. Trump, of course, insisted the lawsuit be filed in New York. Insisted the league would trump “easily.”

Shortly thereafter, the USFL died. Trump was using the league to acquire an NFL franchise. He never cared about the other owners; the players; the employees. Years later he referred to them, collectively and dismissively, as “small potatoes.”

This was Donald Trump.

This is Donald Trump.

You’re following him, because you’re intimidated. And maybe he’s invited you to the White House. Maybe he’ll endorse you. You like your job. You want to hold onto it. Go Trump! Go!

I promise you—100 percent promise you—it’s all a scam. Everything. The whole enchilada. He cares about you and your party no more than he cared about the USFL and its employees. He will stomp you the moment he feels compelled to stomp. Morally and ethically, you have far more in common with Barack Obama and Joe Biden and (gasp!) even Hillary Clinton. You may well disagree with their policies, but they are humans with heart and empathy.

Right now, you are not merely falling for the USFL-esque con.

You are part of it.

7-5, Jordan and Isaiah

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The classic Pearlman jumper goes relatively ignored by Isaiah (left) and Jordan.

I’d been talking shit for quite a while now.




I have two nephews, Jordan, 17, and Isaiah, 14. I’ve watched both of them grow from the time they were born. I used to throw Jordan around a basement bouncy when he was a toddler. I used to pick pumpkins every fall from a patch alongside Isaiah. As the wife always says, they’re our two other kids.

That said, I wanted to destroy them. And told them so.

For a long time, I’d insisted that, should we play basketball, I would win—easily. Me Vs. the two of them. Jordan called bullshit. Isaiah called bullshit. Reggie, their dad, called bullshit. But I knew—absolutely knew—I’d win. First, I’ve been playing ball forever. Second, neither of them plays organized hoop. Third, I’ve got all the little tricks. The pump fake. The cross. The wrist grab. Tricks upon tricks. So, yeah, it’d be 2 on 1. But my one tops their two. I was quite certain.

Today, at long last, we played.

I took an early lead. Hit a few shots. Pump faked. It was 2-0. Then 3-1. I was rolling and secure in my abilities. This would be cake.

Then …

It all fell apart. Isaiah would drive, dish to Jordan behind the three-point line. I knew Jordan wouldn’t hit his shots. But he did. Repeatedly.

The sweat built on my forehead. My body tightened. My legs felt a bit fatigued. I tried to hide the symptoms of old, knowing damn well the tykes would use it against me. Alas …

“You’re old,” Jordan said.


Now, a 7-5 loser, my back hurts and my pride is wounded.

But I’ll be back, dammit.

I’ll be back.

PS: We played a second unofficial game. They, ahem, won that one, too. Fuck.

The last-ever episode of the sitcom

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Isaiah, my awesome nephew.

This is going to sound sorta strange, but I feel like I’m living inside the final episode of a long-running sitcom.

For those who don’t quite understand that reference, travel back in time 34 years, when Happy Days wrapped after a nearly 11-year run. Now, when I was a kid Happy Days was the shows of shows. You had The Fonz, you had Richie, you had Potsie and Ralph and Mr. and Mrs. C and Joanie and Chachi and Big Al. It was this wacky, colorful, lovable collection of characters who—together—made my childhood a bit happier and more enriched.

Over time, though, the whole ensemble turned somewhat stale. Plot lines thinned out. Fonzie infamously jumped a shark and lost his cool. Arnold’s burned down. Richie left for the Army. Mork from Ork made a guest appearance. So, at long last, the thing had to end—and it did. The last episode of Happy Days aired on Sept. 24, 1984, and the concluding scene of the concluding show had Mr. Cunningham offer a toast at Joanie and Chachi’s wedding. His final line: “To happy days.”

I’m choked up just writing that.

Anyhow, as most readers probably know we moved to California four years ago, and this week we made our annual summer trip back to New Rochelle, N.Y., the place we called ours for 11 years. And it all just feels … surreal. My sister-in-law Leah is moving to New York City in a few months, making this our last time in her house. My nephew Jordan is graduating high school and heading off to NYU. My other nephew, Isaiah, graduated from middle school today and will attend high school in the city. My nephews’ longtime nanny, the amazing, like-a-family-member Luba, is taking a new job and her daughter, the equally amazing-and-like-a-family-member Nastia, is graduating high school and off to college.

Also, for the first time since we left, I’d say New Rochelle no longer feels like home. It’s weird. Close friends remain, dazzling memories remain. But it’s no longer ours. I feel more detached than before; more like it’s not my place. Businesses have turned over. People have moved. Kids who were little four years ago are now my height. This is hard to explain, but it’s almost as if we’ve moved on and New Rochelle has moved on.

Hence, the final episode of the final season.

We’re living it.

And, oddly, I feel a bit like crying.

PS: The wife says this needs to play during the final scene of The Pearlmans. I agree.

The important lesson of Joe Walsh


Joe Walsh is a former Illinois congressman and someone I disagree with on nearly all issues.

He’s conservative. Arch conservative. Perhaps arch arch conservative. Through the years his comments and Tweets have often driven me to the brink of insanity. He can be rude, dismissive, harsh, angry, fundamentally incorrect (in my opinion). I can’t state this strongly enough: When I’ve heard Joe Walsh communicate, I’ve shuddered.

And yet …

Something strange has occurred under the Donald Trump nightmare administration, and I actually hope it’s a transformation others have taken, too. Namely, I’ve developed new (and evolving) standards for respecting another human. What I mean is this: Back in the day, I had a very low tolerance for conservative thinkers. I considered them to be selfish, greedy, smug. I viewed many Republicans as, in a way, the enemy. I wanted this for our country, they wanted that—how could we ever agree?

During the Trump catastrophe reign, however, I’m beginning to realize that what matters—more than anything—is integrity. It’s a lesson one can find in the loving kinship of Joe Biden and John McCain. They’re two men who, politically, agree on very little; but two men who have worked side by side because they believe in the other’s character and decency.

As Donald Trump lies and lies and lies and lies, I’ve stopped looking at Republicans as enemies, and I’ve started looking for Republicans willing to stand up to the president; for Republicans espousing the same values today that they did two … five … 10 … 20 years ago. In other words, I’m looking for integrity.

Joe Walsh isn’t my cup of tea. But as others in his party shudder and cower, he occasionally Tweets out stuff like this …

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And this …

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Too often these days, voters are rewarding politicians who flip past stances to align with modern trends in the business. There are pro-NAFTA, anti-wall, pro-DACA Republicans who now cower and hide when asked about their beliefs.

Would I ever vote for Joe Walsh? No.

Do I respect him? Yeah.

I do.

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Once again, Jeff Pearlman has produced an exhaustively researched, elegantly written book that re-creates one of the most colorful and memorable teams of the modern era. No basketball fan's bookshelf will be complete without it.

— Seth Davis, author of Wooden: A Coach's Life